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Medicare Part A Hospital Facilities PCOM Advisory Group
Meeting Minutes
October 29, 2004
9:00 a.m. – 11:00 a.m.
Warwick Public Library
Attendees:
- Greg Hart, Professional Relations, Arkansas Blue Cross
- Lori Langevin, Professional Relations, RI Medicare Services
- Carol DeMelo, RI Medicare Services
- Cindy Cote, Senior RN, RI Medicare Services
- Rocco Bruno, RI Medicare Services
- Mickey Lourenco, Kent County Hospital
- Lynne Gauvin, Kent County Hospital
- Carol Foldes, Landmark Medical Center
- Paula Poirier, Landmark Medical Center
- Kathleen Petrarca, Women & Infants Hospital
- Robin Neale, Women & Infants Hospital
- Godiva Laliberte, Eleanor Slater Hospital
- Jan Sayer, Lifespan
- Katherine Viveiros, Roger Williams Medical Center
- Nilda Mendoza, Roger Williams Medical Center
- Arleen Palazzo, South County Hospital
- Lisa Randall, South County Hospital
- Welcome and Introductions
The meeting was called to order at 9:10 am. Lori Langevin invited the audience to introduce themselves. She welcomed and thanked the members for attending the meeting.
Old Business:
- Review of 7/29/04 meeting minutes
The minutes from the July 29, 2004 meeting were accepted with no changes.
- New Business
PCOM Advisory Group Focus (Handout)
To remind members of the primary focus of the PCOM Advisory Group, Lori explained that the group meets to assist in the creation, implementation and review of providers/supplier education strategies for future workshops, publications
and notices. We need your input to accomplish this task. We need for you to let Medicare know how we can better educate you on specific topics so that you can get your job completed. The intent of this meeting is not for individual problems but to focus
on areas that would affect all hospitals. Lori advised that once the meeting is adjourned, to feel free to present individual concerns.
- FISS & Part A Updates ~ Lori Langevin
- Issue Log Call ~ Now Monthly
Lori Langevin advised the next call is schedule for 11/3/04. However, the Claims Department will take over this call as the existing issues are claims related. Lori Langevin and Lisa Baxter, Ark EDI DEPT. will also participate on the call. Lori
advised as soon as the Claims Dept. confirms this date and who will moderate the call that she will email the group.
- Top 10 FISS Reason Code ~ Claim Submission Errors (4th Quarter FY04~ handout)
The top 10 FISS reason codes were discussed and Lori Langevin asked the group what additional training that they would need to avoid getting these reason codes on their claims:
- Patient name or initial do not match bene record - 30715. Since the conversion to FISS, this has been the top reason code that claims are returned to providers. The problem is that if the name, middle initial or spacing is not exact to the
Common Working File, you will receive this code. The group felt they understood what they have to enter to avoid getting this error.
- Revenue Code invalid for this type of bill – 32206.
- Invalid procedure code – W7040
- Provider requested adjustment to original claim - 37541
- Inpatient & Outpatient claim within 4 days – W7K01
- Incorrect value or occurrence code – 31346
- Inpatient admission within 3 days – 38045
- Missing modifier 25 – W7021
- More than one condition code – 30950
- No appropriate modifier - 31905
Lori also reviewed the top 10 reason codes for October 1-October 25, 2004, which was consistent with the data above. Lori asked the group specific to Hospital claims if there were any reason codes that they were receiving that they had an issue with.
Lori opened up the discussion to the group but no comments were made at this time.
Lori advised that some reason codes may have a system problem, which Lori would advise this group on. We have Medicare staff is looking at location TB9997, which is when claims are returned to providers for specific reasons. The feedback that I have
received concerning this has been more concerned with SNF billing than hospital billing. Lori advised again if a claim is returned to you and you do not understand why, inquire with Customer Service and if education or training is needed to contact Lori.
Lori asked the group if they have any issues with TB9997 claims that they need education on. The group had no issues at this time.
- Provider Customer Service Program (CR 3376) ~ Greg Hart
This CR will change the current structure for handling provider inquiring and education.
Greg informed the group that a study was conducted for all Customer Service Units for Medicare Fee-for Service business. The study determined that there was a need to improve Customer Service and divide the Customer Service Reps. so that certain ones
will only service providers and others will service the patients. This will allow the Reps. to become more knowledgeable when assisting the providers.
As part of the Medicare Modernization Act effective January 1, 2005, contractors will be restructuring their Provider Customer Service areas in an effort to provide better customer service. The customer service areas will be structured into tiers, the
first tier will handle very general question…the 2nd tier will handle more specific calls and 3rd tier will handle very complex questions that may need research.
Greg also advised that providers will be directed to the IVR (Interactive Voice Response) for status on a claim. This will take place sometime in April 2005. This system will address claim status and eligibility inquiries. For correspondence, Medicare
will still have 45 days to respond in accordance with CMS standards, this would include emails as well as general mail.
For the provider side for education and training, this CR will expand on our use of the website for Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) and Web-based training courses. Another aspect of Provider Education will be to target small providers. This would not
apply to hospitals, however Greg asked for input on current teleconferences and the Open Door Forum calls. Greg asked specifically for the frequency and topics that the hospitals would like to see. Greg advised to forward suggestions to Lori.
Greg spoke about the Medicare website and making the website technically self sufficient for providers to find the information as quickly as possible. You will also see a breakdown of just Part A issues. Greg reminded the group again to forward any
ideas or suggestions to Lori on improving the RI website.
Upcoming Hospital workshops will include annual updates (March 2005) and general billing of the UB92 form (end of the fiscal year 2005). These dates will be announced through newsletters and our website. Greg also mentioned the Inpatient Psych
PPS training that CMS will mandate and announce very soon. Lori advised the group to provide input on what topics they would like to see at these workshops.
- CERT ~ Comprehensive Error Rate Testing
Lori Langevin advised the group that CERT is here to stay and reminded the group to submit medical record request as soon as possible to avoid being a "non-responder" and claims being adjusted for a takeback due to no medical documentation being
submitted. CMS is organizing Provider Focus Group to improver the CERT process. As a reminder, AdvanceMed is the CERT contractor assigned by CMS to handle these reviews. Lori reminded the group that in addition to CERT reviews, RI Medicare conducts
pre-pay and post–pay review of your claims. Also the CMS Website has a lot of information on the CERT process.
A question was raised if CERT denials can be appealed. Cindy Cote advised that they can be appealed to our office for Hospital claims.
- RI Medical Review Issues ~ Cindy Cote, Senior RN
1 Medical Review Website Update (handouts)
- Up and Coming – New Section:
Cindy Cote gave an overview of the new Medical Review section of the RI Medicare Website and instructed the group that another educational resource – documentation requirements – will be added to the Medical Review section of the RI Medicare website .
This section – documentation requirements - when completed will provide specific documentation guidelines for complex reviews being reviewed by the Fiscal Intermediary.
Cindy instructed the group step by step in how to access the MR Website and gave a sample of the Arkansas Medicare Services website page for Part B which listed their complex reviews for Part B. Cindy explained that the RI MR Website documentation
requirements section would be set up in a similar way, giving information on the edit reason code under review, why some denials have been made, and specifically what documentation is needed to support the medical necessity of the service or procedure
provided.
Cindy also instructed the group in how to access the Medical Policies Section of the RI Medicare website. She explained the process of submitting a comment on a Draft policy.
- Documentation Requirements – Complex Review Edit Reason Codes
Cindy reviewed the website to be implemented as Arkansas has for documentation requirements and advised that very soon you will these guidelines on our RI website. A concern was made from Kent Hospital that hospital staff that would need this
information would most likely would not have internet access. However, the hospital thought his was a good idea and perhaps they could recommend that certain Medical Records. Staff could get access to the web.
2. LCD Transition – Draft Policies – Update:
Cindy gave an overview of consolidating RI and Arkansas policies and also where to find the policies on our website and how to comment. Cindy emphasized that we are trying hard to make the website easy to use and to find the answers you need to your
questions. Both Cindy and Lori advised if you have a question or concern you can not find on our web, to email or call us.
13 Eye Policies presented at Open CAC on Oct.13th and evening CAC on Oct. 27th:
- 3 policies for Consolidation
- 10 policies are new to Rhode Island
- Eye Policies - Comment Period 10/13/04-12/13/04
Draft Policies presented in September:
Comment Period ends 11/09/04 for:
- Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, AC-02-059
- Accelerated Breast Irradiation (APBI), AC-04-003
- Anti-Cancer Drugs, AC 01-024
- Debridement of Toenails, AC-30-003
- Infrared Coagulation of Hemorrhoids, AC-04-004
- Insertable Loop Recorder (ILR), AC-99-529
- Magnetic Resonance Angiography (MRA), AC-03-010
- Routine Foot Care, AC-02-043
- Stereotactic Radiosurgery / Fractionated Stereotactic Radiotherapy, AC-02-018
A concern of the hospitals was the bone density tests and the recent ADR letters (10/1/04) that are generating for proof of the last bone density test. Cindy advised that she would review the letter to ensure it is asking for the appropriate
information. Cindy advised that the ADR should not be for frequency since the system would edit for test that were done before the allowable time. However, an ADR letter may be requested if the diagnosis code warrants the test before the 23 month
allowable time. Lori suggested that maybe the ADR letter needs updating.
C.) Open Discussion
- Website ~ Medicare updates daily
Medicare’s website is updated on a daily basis and we encourage providers to use more frequently in order to receive the most recent changes, deletions and updated Medicare information. Also, we have free-of -charge courses for which you can receive
credits. We use a pop-up screen to address critical issues. As a reminder the minutes to this meeting are posted to our web. You can find them by clicking on the Provider Information and looking to the left side of the page if you scroll down to PCOMAG
Info, this is where you would double click. We also post the dates and times of these meetings. We still intend to get the FY 05 schedule posted on the web; however we need to make travel plans with other states involved. We also have Listservs
specifically for Hospitals. Lori referred group to the handout on Part A Listservs and the website as it exists now with Part A and Part B of Medicare separated for easier access.
- HIPAA ~ Lori encouraged group to convert to HIPAA versions as soon as possible, including the electronic remit formats. Lori advised group to contact Arkansas EDI @ 1-866-582-3247 for EDI assistance. Lori also referred to the HIPAA Report User Guide
that can be found on the Web.
- Medicare Newsletter ~ Effective January 1, 2005, these newsletter will only be available electronic. There will be a $100.00 yearly fee for paper copies.
- Medicare News ~ Lori gave an overview of the following items:
Medicare Beneficiaries will soon be able to resolve Medicare appeals faster due to CMS awarding contracts to 8 QIC’s (Qualified Independent Contractors). These QIO’s will perform reconsiderations, or second level claims appeals, of denied Medicare
fee-for-service claims. This is a key step in helping Medicare beneficiaries resolve their appeals more quickly and efficiently. Also the ALJ’s will now be under Health and Human Services, which will mean they will have to follow the same guidelines as
CMS. This process should be in place by October 1, 2005.
- Medlearn Matters MM3260 ~ Invalid Diagnosis Code Editing ~ Second Phase
New edits will be added to the Medicare claims processing system to prevent acceptance of inbound claims with invalid diagnosis codes. Effective April 2005
- Medlearn Matter MM3311 ~ Override of Medicare System Edit for Observations Services Exceeding 48 Hours.
This article relates to the current Medicare system edit that does not allow claims to be paid for observation services greater than 48 hours. Effective April 1, 2005, changes will be made to the Medicare system to allow this edit to be overridden when
the additional observation hours are reasonable and necessary. ABN’s must be given if you submit a claim for observation services greater than 48 hours. Lori will get clarification on this.
- Medlearn matter SE0464 ~ Important News about Flu Shots for Medicare Beneficiaries
Due to the flu vaccine shortage, Medicare beneficiaries are being encouraged to obtain the flu vaccine from their regular physician. This shortage does not include the pneumococcal. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is recommending that
individuals be given priority for getting the flu vaccine who are in high-risk category.
- Medlearn Matters MM3416 ~ New Policy and Refinement on Billing Non-Covered charges to Fiscal Intermediaries
This article relates to CR 3416 and services to effect compliance with the HIPAA in ensuring all services not covered by Medicare may be submitted and accepted on Medicare claims, which in turn can be crossed over to subsequent payers.
Issues brought to our attention by the hospitals during open discussion:
- Genetic modifiers listed in the 2005 CPT book and when they are effective for certain HCPCS. Lori will get clarification on this.
- LMRP’s and the retiring of them to LCD’s was mentioned. Cindy Cote explained the process will take some time but the goal is to follow the same protocol as Arkansas. You can view this on the website as they transition and we will post when a LMRP is
retired.
- The hospitals requested that when EDI issues affect their claims being processed that they would like to be notified by an email since all the hospitals are on an email address group with Ark EDI. Lori advised that EDI would post these issues on the
web
- Paper remits are to be eliminated January 2005 so what plans are in place so that the hospitals can post their money, since the electronic remits are not readable. Will there be a replacement file sent once the paper remits are eliminated? Lori will
inquire with ARK EDI.
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- Lori brought up the issue that when EDI gets a file and the file is accepted why would the claims not get into FISS. Lori has a new Part A provider with this issue now.
- Eleanor Slater mentioned electronic remits and when they are available. Lori advised this remit should be available on Wednesday’s after the Tuesday night payment cycle runs.
- Landmark Medical mentioned that when they call Customer Service they are advised that a certain claim can not be adjusted or processed due to a system problem. The hospitals would like the information communicated to them so they are aware of the
system problems, if any. Lori advised that that is what we try to do with the Part A issue log. Greg suggested posting FISS issue to our website.
- Landmark Medical Center brought up an issue with some claims that are just not getting through FISS and the use of A-3 when the patient’s days are not exhausted. Lori advised she would follow-up with JoAnne Hernandez, Supervisor of Claims Dept.
- The hospitals are not satisfied with the CMS feedback on SNF CB with Emergency Room services that extend after midnight. CMS advised on a SNF CB conference call that the hospital should bill all services regardless if the service were done after
midnight with the same date the patient was admitted to the Emergency Room. The hospitals all agree that the instructions only apply to revenue code 450 not other services rendered. They also are concerned with compliance issues of billing services with a
date of service that is not consistent with then the actual services were performed. Lori advised that she asked Cathy Sullivan if CMS would be putting something on writing to clarify other revenue codes services done after midnight. Cathy advised that
per the SNF CB conference that CMS advised the FI’s to refer the providers to the OPPS manual on Emergency Room billing after midnight. Greg suggested that the issue be addressed in writing and than the written request can be forwarded to CMS for further
review. Carol Foldes advised that she will send her concerns in writing to Lori Langevin. We can discuss with Cathy Sullivan again and work with CMS from there.
- Hospitals questioned location SMSPR1 and why do lab claims have to suspend in that locations. This will also be an action item.
D. ) Next meeting & agenda Items
FY05 ~ 1st Quarter
Lori Langevin advised the next meeting is scheduled for January 21, 2005 9-11 am Warwick Public Library. This date is subject to change but the meeting will be held this same week.
Lori also encouraged members to submit agenda items for the next meeting and to provide input on Medicare topics that you would like training and education on.
Lori Langevin thanked the members for their attendance and feedback to this meeting. The meeting adjourned at 11:30 a.m.
ACTION ITEMS:
- Lori Langevin to advise the group on the date, time and dial-in-number for the Part A issue log call as soon as Cathy Sullivan can provide this information.
The Part A FISS issue log call has been renamed to "Ask the Contractor ~ FISS Issue Log"
This change is in response to CMS's request that contractors hold quarterly conference call with providers to answer Medicare related questions. This call will be held quarterly. The next call will be early January. Lori Langevin will moderate the call
and there will be Medicare Staff on the call from the Claims Dept. and EDI Dept also. This call will replace the Issue Log call that we were having once a month.
Once a new dial-in number is established, Lori Langevin will advise the group of the date and time. As always, any FISS System Issues that are affecting your claims NOW, please call or email Lori Langevin so that we can continue to assist you.
- Cindy Cote to review the ADR letter for Bone Density Tests to ensure the appropriate information is being requested. We believe the diagnosis code is triggering the ADR letter for medical records.
Certain diagnosis codes will trigger an ADR letter (Additional Documentation Letter) because the diagnosis code would warrant the test to be conducted more frequently than the Medicare time limit. In order to pay the tests more frequently, in this case
23 months, the medical records would need to be reviewed first.
- Can FISS post more frequency tests than just PAP tests? For example, Bone Density, PSA and Mammography tests would be a great help to the hospitals. Lori Langevin will send request to our System Dept to follow-up on. Currently only PAP tests are
posted on FISS even though there is a field for Mammography tests.
On November 8, 2005, Lori Langevin forwarded request to the RI System Dept.
- Medlearn Matter MM3311 ~ Override of Medicare System Edit for Observations Services Exceeding 48 Hours. Lori Langevin to get clarification on this article since ABN was mentioned and the hospitals would not bill for observation services.
An ABN is needed since the services may or may not be covered based on medical necessity. However, if the services are deemed medical necessary, this new edit will allow the FISS system to pay the claim.
- Genetic Modifiers were mentioned and the group would like clarification on when these modifiers will be effective for certain HCPCS.
These modifiers are in the 2005 CPT book; however CMS has not mandated these modifiers for Medicare claims.
- Are EDI issues posted where provider can be informed on the issues that could affect their claim submission? Lori to follow-up with Ark EDI.
Per Arkansas EDI Dept, this information is posted to the EDI section on each state’s website.
- Will another report replace the paper remits that will be eliminated on January 1, 2005? Lori to follow-up with ARK EDI.
No, if hospitals are having trouble reading their electronic remits, they should contact the EDI Dept. In most cases EDI will produce a file in a certain type of format, from there the vendor’s software takes over. David Bailey advised to contact Mary
Habel @ 1-866-582-3247.
- Why would claims that are accepted electronically not get into FISS?
Lori was advised from ARK EDI that the problem was with the provider file on FISS. Once that file was updated the claims were found in FISS. This was new provider that encountered this issue. Anytime the provider file has missing information or invalid
information, this could affect the electronic file from being transferred into FISS.
Lori Langevin to follow-up with JoAnne Hernandez on Landmark Medical Center’s outstanding claims that FISS will not process.
On November 5, 2005, Lori Langevin received an email from JoAnne Hernandez on the remaining outstanding claims for Landmark Medical Center. The claims are set to pay.
SNF PPS CB with ER services after midnight. Landmark Medical Center will address their concerns with CMS instructions per the OPPS manual in writing to Lori Langevin.
On November 9, 2004, Lori Langevin received this notice from Landmark Medical Center. Lori Langevin will forward to Greg Hart in Arkansas for follow-up with CMS.
- Location SMSPR1 on FISS. Lori will get clarification on why lab claims suspend in this location.
This location is a SUPEROPS location, which is where claims that involve NCD’s (National Coverage Decisions) must go though on the FISS system. If there is one HCPC code on the claim that is involved with a policy, the claim will go to that SUPEROPS
location so that they system can verify the diagnosis as a covered diagnosis for that service.
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